New PDF release: Plato: Meno and Phaedo

By David Sedley, Alex Long

ISBN-10: 0521859476

ISBN-13: 9780521859479

Plato's Meno and Phaedo are of an important works of historical western philosophy and remain studied world wide. The Meno is a seminal paintings of epistemology. The Phaedo is a key resource for Platonic metaphysics and for Plato's perception of the human soul. jointly they illustrate the delivery of Platonic philosophy from Plato's reflections on Socrates' lifestyles and doctrines. This version bargains new and obtainable translations of either works, including an intensive creation that explains the arguments of the 2 dialogues and their position in Plato's idea.

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Do you describe something as ‘surface’, and something else as ‘solid’, such as the ones in geometrical studies? meno : I do. so c r a t es: Now already with these you might understand what I say shape is. For all shape, I say that shape is that at which the solid is limited. Drawing that together I would say that shape is the limit of a solid. meno : But what do you say colour is, Socrates? so c r a t es: Outrageous behaviour, Meno! You set problems for an 76b old man to answer, but you’re not willing yourself to recollect and tell me what on earth Gorgias says virtue is.

S l a v e : Yes. soc r a t es: Now the experts call this line a ‘diagonal’. So if its name is ‘diagonal’, it is the diagonal according to you, Meno’s slave, that would produce double the area. s l a v e : Certainly, Socrates. soc r a t es: What do you think, Meno? Is there any opinion he gave in reply which wasn’t his own? 85c meno: No, they were his own. soc r a t es: And yet he didn’t know the answer, as we were saying a little earlier. meno: True. soc r a t es: Right, but these opinions were inside him, weren’t they?

Meno: And how will you search for something, Socrates, if you don’t know at all what it is? What sort of thing from among those you don’t know will you make the target of your search? Or even if you were to hit upon it with complete success, how will you know that this is the thing you didn’t know? so c r a t es: I understand what you mean to say, Meno. Do you see what an eristic argument you’re spinning, that a person turns out not to be able to search either for what he knows or for what he doesn’t know?

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